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post Aug 2 2006, 07:36 AM
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Wife got her dog, I get another bote banger.gif

I'm having some trouble narrowing it down ... there seem to be lots of boats that fit the bill. I'm just trying to find the best boat at the best price. I doubt I will spend more than $20k ... but I'd love to get away with only spending 12 or 13. Rules of the house are that boats are cash purchases only, so the cheaper it is the sooner I get it.

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I'm looking for a bigger boat to be my second boat. Something that I can run the beaches and nearshore areas (picking my days of course) for cobia, tarpon, maybe the occasional nearshore reef.

I live near the St Johns River and Lake Monroe, so this boat should also accomodate the occasional booze cruise or tow an innertube.

Basically, a larger fishing boat that is comfortable enough to take the family and friends out.

I don't want something overly huge, I have a V6 powered pickup and ideally I'd like to replace it a few years from now.

My options as I see them:

Small Offshore boat (19 or 20 feet)

Bay Boat (20 or 21 feet)

Panga (20 or 22 feet)

The small offshore boat would be great, but I'm concerned about the overall weight and my truck's ability to tow it. Also, heavier boats need bigger motors, so price may be a problem.

Bay boats fit the bill nicely, I have to pick my days going offshore probably moreso than with the offshore rig, and have to find one with ample seating in order to make it work. The added bonus with a bay boat is I can put a troller on it and fish the Indian River, docks down souf, etc.

Pangas are great. They are light so they dont need a huge motor and they are more towable than a regular offshore boat. Not all are set up well for passenger seating, and there are almost NO used pangas for sale. New prices are a little higher than I'd like to spend.

So what do you guys think?


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post Aug 2 2006, 07:39 AM
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Pathfinder .


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post Aug 2 2006, 07:39 AM
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QUOTE (Sapro)
....Basically, a larger fishing boat that is comfortable enough to take the family and friends out.


Based on the turnout at your last few events where "friends" were invited....I think you should be satisfied with the BT :wink:
 
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post Aug 2 2006, 07:50 AM
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QUOTE (Scootertramp)
Pathfinder .

http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/3/8/85060338.htm

only 18' but a nice riding boat


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post Aug 2 2006, 07:53 AM
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Yeah the Pathfinders are nice but 18 isnt big enough for my purposes, and the larger ones are just out of my price range.

http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/1/4/85165714.htm

Anyone have personal experience with a Bay Stealth / VIP ?


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post Aug 2 2006, 07:57 AM
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no experience with bay stealth...but these are good boats for the money...almost bought one, and my father may still
http://www.boattraderonline.com/caddetail..../0/10284040.htm

really like this one
http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/1/9/84909219.htm

this is nice as well
http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/9/5/84615595.htm


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post Aug 2 2006, 08:10 AM
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22 Kenner?


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post Aug 2 2006, 09:21 AM
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post Aug 2 2006, 10:29 AM
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Yea Phil, what have you looked at?

I'd steer away from the Stealth/VIP, just wasn't well finished in my book and there are better boats out there.

I had a 2101 Century Bay before the Bluewater and it did just about everything I wanted it to, river, freshwater to 20 miles offshore in the summer.
What I didn't like about it was the livewell (very small) and the front "fishbox" (what a joke, I put a nice cobia in it one day and when it hardened from the ice, I couldn't get it out of there).
It had a 15 degree deadrise which is about the minimum you'd want for offshore.
Capt. Randy just got a Sea Pro SV2100 and is getting just over 5 MPG with a 150 Yammy 4 stroker. Last weekend he fished a nearshore wreck one day and 8A the next.
Give him a shout if you want to talk about or see it.

Used Pangas are non existent and unproven up this way.

As for a small offshore, if you wanted to go that route, it would limit your options in the river (just like the bay would limit your offshore options) but I'd opt for a 216 Sailfish or maybe a 19-20' Dusky.

If it were me and I had to do it again, I'd get a bay boat with as much deadrise as I could find, the highest gunnels and a huge livewell.


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post Aug 2 2006, 10:44 AM
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Not referring to the price, but the boat...I'd like something like this myself

Good style boat, draft is minimal, good freeboard, capable of going offshore on the right day...Gause, Dorado, Schaeffer, etc style boats

http://www.hammerheadlivewell.com/aquaspor...ort-sale-hh.htm
 
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post Aug 2 2006, 10:47 AM
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Thanks Steve, that's good info. I'm not looking to impress necessarily on finish. The Bay Stealth comes in different models, I would definitely go with the liner model (like the one I posted above) if I went that route. It is, I believe, a 10 degree deadrise... It's cheaper than a Kenner (used anyway) with a better finish.

Something I should mention is that I'm not looking to do a lot of offshore fishing. My dad has a suitable boat for that and I can just bum a ride with him or charter if I wanted to do a serious day in the bluewater. This would basically be for cobia and tarpon as a beachbote.

My guess is that the boat would be used:

60% river / lake
15% beach (cobia and tarpon runs)
25% IRL / keys / etc


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post Aug 2 2006, 05:35 PM
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For 60% of the time on the river, I'd throw a dual console into the choices. More comfortable for 3+ people, still capable of doing everything else OK. Maybe a Keywest or proline?

For bayboats, I'd also look at Keywest bayreef 196. Should be able to find a used one in your $ range.

I vote for Sailfish over VIP in the small CC's.
 
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post Aug 2 2006, 06:03 PM
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I would look for a bay boat that has a tower on it for the beaches. A left coast boat.
 
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post Aug 2 2006, 06:56 PM
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go for the panga Sap


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post Aug 2 2006, 07:26 PM
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Phil, I need to get rid of my SV1900 F115 yammy, no trailer, and I gotta get some stuff done on it before I'd even think of selling it, but it's in good overall shape, engines had all the routine maintence done, and it's getting ready to go again. It's a '04 I think, I'll check and get you pics if you're interested.


Did I mention cheap?


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post Aug 2 2006, 08:08 PM
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post Aug 2 2006, 08:20 PM
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QUOTE (thresher)


I might have miss read but didn't he say $12-$13K and about $20K MAX.... :roll: :roll: :roll:


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post Aug 3 2006, 09:02 AM
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Hey Jimmy ... the 19 is probably a little smaller than I'm looking at but let me know when you're ready to sell, I'll come check it out.

On another note ... I'm starting to see why people recommend an old aquasport 222

http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/7/2/85231272.htm

That one's already pretty nice and with a little work and $ it could be VERY nice.


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post Aug 3 2006, 10:06 AM
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Here's a 23 Sheaffer for a cool 76k.

http://www.boattraderonline.com/caddetail..../8/85251318.htm :shock:


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post Aug 3 2006, 10:11 AM
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Phil, although it looks nice from the pictures, if it's not a full restore, it's still a 36 year old boat. That equals rot :shock:
Those old Aquasports may be good over in the Gulf chop, I don't see them over here on the Atlantic/Indian River side at all.
And I don't think the tower is something that is the rave over here either confused.gif
Don't get me wrong, they look good and have there place, I just don't know if its over here.


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